lisa1907
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KitHi there all
The kits I had born a few weeks ago where the one kit was dead on arrival I mailed a pic to aileen to see what she thought cant remember when might have been last weekend?
Anyway I was cleaning out chin at weekend to find the kit looked wet picked him up and he smelled but of wee it looks like he weeing on himself and the only thing I donw at the weekend was put him in some water and dettol to clean area what can this be or why this happening.
Lisa
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lisa1907
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Hi there aileen
I looked at the pages you have here and I noticed that debbie had done abit of advise on incontince and that exatly what the poor guy has no matter how good i have looked after him he not getting any better so phoned the vet they said to take him donw tonight and have him put to sleep as I know by debbies site that there is nothing i can do or any one can do for him so I know this is better cant help blaming myself i wish there was a magic wand but i know theres not i really gutted so I going down to vets at 5 40 tonight I have said my goodbyes to him I hope he is better where he will be going so I hope he sleeps well and he will join all the other chins in chinnie heaven.
Lisa
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mum
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Thinking of your sad decision you had to make Lisa. It's a tough one.
I think you made a wise decision if that helps you any.
take care, sometimes breeding is very hard at times isn't it.
Sleep well little one. ~mum~
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lisa1907
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Hi mumHi there
It was very hard to take him down there I knew as soon as I read about the problem it was what he had I trying to keep myself going but cant really look at his mum at the mo not a good time at all I knew that this would happen one day I just never wanted it to but thanks for the message it helps I am sure I am not the only one to have this happen to and not the last. I hope you have a nice x-mas and new year I full of the cold and poor chyvonne just getting it.
Lisa
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Guest
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so no infection then - i hope tha was checked first b4 putin im down
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lisa1907
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Hi thereHi there
Yes of course it was checked you think the vet would have put a good chin down and you think i would have knew if it was an infection or not too I been breed for a few years to see the diff in an infection in a chin or not I would have never put him down if I thought i could do anything for him I dont all could and knew it was incontinence as soon as I read about it as everything was the same and yes was giving a full look over by vet and she totally agreed with me it was me telling her about it and this vet knows her chins.
Aileen what should I do with the mother I dont really think I should breed her again it werid 5 litters all fine and this happens with this one I so sad about the wee guy I cant look his mum in the face.
Lisa
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Guest
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a kidney infect'n or bladder stones can cause incontinence in furries, the first can be cleared by antib's, the latter with an operation. i new a furry that had a piece of straw stuck in its sheath and it caused him to wet over himself continuously until it was found and removed. a furry should never be diagnosed without tests or solid proof or based on asumptions either through reading a book or thinking you have solved it by hearin similar stories.
If you have had alright litters in the past then is the female subject to a lot of breedback??a weak female can produce weak or deformed kits if shes been continuously bred and not rested and if thats the case its not the female thats at fault.
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lisa1907
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Hi thereHi there
Sorry it felt like you were attacking me the vet did have a look at thew wee guy so did i. I checked him fully cleaned him twice a day for about 6 days and keeped checking him for things stuck so on.
The female has always been rested for at least 6 months afterwards she has never had breed back always been taking away from male before she gives birth so this has never happened to her this happened one to one of my chins and she was reasted for about 8 months or so maybe longer and went on to have great kits she also a pedigreed chin with the father coming from aileen so it's not that they carry anything from their families both are in good health the female has been checked over too and is in good health and weight i in the middle of booasting her back up she will now be on her own for a long time to get her back to very good health you saying she will be fine to carry on having kits as i read if a chin had a kit with incontinece it better never to breed with her again ?
The vey was in no two minds about the kit being in good health apart from the incontinence which cant be cured in such a young kit and would not have a good quality of life with it as they will be very sore with weeing on themselfs all the time I know what i did was right and the vet did too if their was anything i could have done i would have even if i ment alot of expense as I keep money aside for my chins in such cases so it was not the fact of money that he was put down i know it was better for him and really gutted about it and dont need people thinking i did this for all the wrong reasons as not true.
Lisa
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Guest
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how old is your female and how many litters has she had, taking into the fact that she shouldn't have been bred with until she was around 10 months old
j
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lisa1907
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Hi thereHi again
I have been breeding for a few years now learned alot from aileen herself I know how to breed chins my female 3 years old and has had about 4 litters the male is from aileen and he must be about 2 soon I know where they both came from and know their background their has been no problems like this in any of their families and they are both perfectly healthy their is not much you cant tell me about chins that i already know
Lisa
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Guest
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if the male is now 2 years old, he shouldnt have been in breeding until he was around 10 months old so if hes now only two shes had four litters in that short space of time, no wonder the kits werent healthy then, I would say she needs a very long rest, she must have been victim to a few breedbacks too. If you have kept chins for around 3 years i am afraid you cant know it all, after keeping chins for way longer than that i am still learning every day. So in essence no one knows it all
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Aileen
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To the guest when you sign in can you sign in with your name plz Thanks
Aileen
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Aileen
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Hi Lisa,
I would say do what you feel is best.If you breed again with her after she has been rested you will just worry anyway incase it happens again.I know how you are with your chins
I have never know it happen again ,if it was me then i dont take the chance,however i have never had it with one of my females.
At the end of the day you will do whats best for her..
Take care
Aileen
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mum
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[color=darkblue:d416fec6fb]To 'Guest' a little more compassion and less attack is called for here. We know Lisa personally have done for years. The female chinchilla is 'three' years old 'not' two. Lisa's care of her chinchillas is well known by members here.
Please think before you add here and as Aileen says come out from being anonymous!
Any further attacks from you on Lisa's care of her chinchillas will be deleted.[/color:d416fec6fb]
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Aileen
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Thanks Mum i could have not put it better myself
Aileen
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lisa1907
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Hi there mum and aileenHi there
Thanks again you two this person was getting on my nerves like I did not know what I was doing and to the perosn I have never breedback any of my chins and always rested them the female in question was rested for about 6 months the last time and was put back up to a good weigh and health she was giving a check up too and was giving the all clear do you think with me now knowing aileen and mum for ooooh about 3 years you think I would have known nothing i have learnt from the best person poss I wonder if you had that chance I know how to brred chins I know how to look after them and I know the age limits so on I have done alot of research on this animal and I learnt for about 3 years before I took one one os I have learned over 6 years about this animal and 3 of them have been under aileen wing so I would stop harrasing people you do not know what gives you the right to point fingers when you have not got a clue about the person I know I did the right thing and you think a vet would put a healthy animal down If I had an something to say at least I would have the guts to sign in Aileen and mum I hope you are both doing fine I thanks for the back up
Lisa
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lisa1907
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Hi there mum and aileenHi there
Thanks again you two this person was getting on my nerves like I did not know what I was doing and to the perosn I have never breedback any of my chins and always rested them the female in question was rested for about 6 months the last time and was put back up to a good weigh and health she was giving a check up too and was giving the all clear do you think with me now knowing aileen and mum for ooooh about 3 years you think I would have known nothing i have learnt from the best person poss I wonder if you had that chance I know how to brred chins I know how to look after them and I know the age limits so on I have done alot of research on this animal and I learnt for about 3 years before I took one one os I have learned over 6 years about this animal and 3 of them have been under aileen wing so I would stop harrasing people you do not know what gives you the right to point fingers when you have not got a clue about the person I know I did the right thing and you think a vet would put a healthy animal down If I had an something to say at least I would have the guts to sign in Aileen and mum I hope you are both doing fine I thanks for the back up
Lisa
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mum
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Welcome Lisa.
Not often I need to step in with my admin hat on messages but I had to on this one.
see soon ~mum~
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Aileen
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Your welcome Lisa
We know how you are with your chins,thought it was terrible they coudent sign there name to it.
Hope your backs better
Aileen
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mum
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